tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8608317781914932095.post3613880035652143500..comments2023-05-20T05:19:32.469-05:00Comments on Diana Prince as the New Wonder Woman: I Could Never Be Your Wonder WomanDiabolu Frankhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8608317781914932095.post-74780361201899957842010-05-13T00:40:42.988-05:002010-05-13T00:40:42.988-05:00Shag-- I remember reading that article, and may ad...Shag-- I remember reading that article, and may address it in the future. There's a lot of valid gripes to direct at Wonder Woman, and I support a good many of them. Still, I got love, and hope to spotlight some good material others may have missed. Alternately, there's truckloads of bad material I'll cop squats on.Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8608317781914932095.post-62338793240945028232010-05-12T23:48:15.593-05:002010-05-12T23:48:15.593-05:00Frank - Congrats on the new blog! Because you don...Frank - Congrats on the new blog! Because you don't already have enough to do. ;)<br /><br />I struggle with the character of Wonder Woman, like many people. Nearly two years ago I wrote a piece on why I didn't care about Wonder Woman. Most of it still stands.<br />http://onceuponageek.com/2008/09/12/wonder-woman-why-i-dont-really-care/<br /><br />Good luck on your new blog! I'll stop by from time to time!<br /><br />The Irredeemable Shag<br />http://onceuponageek.com<br />http://firestormfan.comThe Irredeemable Shaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01620741461584124844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8608317781914932095.post-84084451209193413782010-05-11T20:39:14.227-05:002010-05-11T20:39:14.227-05:00M.C., I remember hearing a lot of griping about th...M.C., I remember hearing a lot of griping about the Gorilla City troops online, but I liked them alright, up until they kind of played out as a deus ex machina. They were Golden/Silver Age wonky, which the book could use more of. I only read the Achilles portions from the trade with Genocide, so I only vaguely recall his role in the book.<br /><br />I have nothing else to add. You said it! :)Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8608317781914932095.post-32099479187859671892010-05-11T09:43:34.565-05:002010-05-11T09:43:34.565-05:00I enjoyed the super ape sidekicks, and the Achille...I enjoyed the super ape sidekicks, and the Achilles turned out better than Hercules in drag from the first arc... but you do have a poin that Simone hasn't been as effective as she has been on Birds of Prey and Secret Six. I think that owes a lot to the aforementioned inherent difficulties with the character given her history, both fictional and real.<br /><br />She is so closely tied to the women's movement, and the "ideal woman" has shifted several times, and continues to do so. It's a farely unique conundrum. For instance, MM may have some conflicting interpretations, but they're all in the same neck of the woods as the old Detective comics strips, and most interpretations have either cemented or quickly been done away with. Wonder Woman's popularity means she is used a lot, and often at cross purposes... An interesting subject, to say the least!mathematicscorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15439579069513071094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8608317781914932095.post-49550536571669913712010-05-10T19:40:29.177-05:002010-05-10T19:40:29.177-05:00In my little pop-up comment greeting, I briefly ha...In my little pop-up comment greeting, I briefly had the lyric "Stop a bullet cold, make the Axis fold." Your comment makes me regret losing it, madman!Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8608317781914932095.post-27702117125344637742010-05-10T19:26:12.112-05:002010-05-10T19:26:12.112-05:00Frank, I have been away fishing and super busy at ...Frank, I have been away fishing and super busy at work is all. Plus I thought I would share my thoughts for the rest of the WORLD to see! MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! FOOLS! I'LL DESTROY THEM ALL!Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352646370918575626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8608317781914932095.post-61475723307703199942010-05-10T18:58:44.525-05:002010-05-10T18:58:44.525-05:00Luke, deja vu, but sharing in caring. I never hear...Luke, deja vu, but sharing in caring. I never heard back from that last long email. Too much?<br /><br />M.C., I read two of the Simone trades, and they irritated the crap out of me. I think Simone is one of the finest writers working, but her best stuff skews really dark. The combination of black humor and sadistic violence could be exactly what Plastic Man needs to return to greatness (Ethan Van Sciver wouldn't hurt,) but on Wonder Woman it feels wrong. The first year of Perez got dark at times too, but it had an innocence and nobility to it that redeems it. I definitely recommend reading those when you get the time, though #8 offers a solid recap of the first seven issues on its own. <br /><br />Anyway, it's sad that a character recognized around the world with seventy years of history is still so ill-defined and far shy of her potential.<br /><br />Also, I will be covering other DC heroines on this blog. I'm not sure who exactly beyond the Huntress, but let me get this thing off the ground before I make any promises. I may stick with WW-related gals, or not, depending.Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8608317781914932095.post-56725118977663081792010-05-10T07:47:22.372-05:002010-05-10T07:47:22.372-05:00I love the idea of WW moreso than the way that cha...I love the idea of WW moreso than the way that character is written I think. <br /><br />You are right about the diversification and further niche-ification of WW fandom. There's a lot of wackos out there who love Diana and they are convinced that anyone who likes a take on Diana which is not their take is ABSOLUTELY WRONG. I mean, generally speaking Superfans can agree to disagree on Pre-Crisis, Post-Crisis, Modern, whatever, and even the Kyle and Hal fans have entered an uneasy sort of truce. But the Amazon fans are the craziest I have ever encountered. They put Titans fans to shame in the loony department. This doesn't help Wonder Woman much either. <br /><br />You want to know my take? Wonder Woman's biggest problem is that she is a symbol. And everyone's got a different idea of she should stand for and at least half of that "everyone" is a radical type who wants to take her into man-hating territory. I never got that vibe off the old Golden Age stuff in the formative years. But thats just me. I could be wrong.<br /><br />Much like I often get shouted down when talking about Luke Cage since I'm white, views of straight men who like Wonder Woman are often ignored. Hopefully your blog will be somewhere where those opinions are allowed to be aired.Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352646370918575626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8608317781914932095.post-764971575252288782010-05-09T23:12:48.899-05:002010-05-09T23:12:48.899-05:00Nice. While I've not quite gone quite full bo...Nice. While I've not quite gone quite full bore yet, my WW arc is similar to yours. I bought off ebay the vast bulk of the Perez series and War of the Gods from various quarter bins (mostly because I'm obsessive and I bought the Batman tie in off the stands and have wondered ever since if it was as good as the Grant and Breyfogle ancillary crossover...I'm prepared for disappointment) though I've read pretty much nothing of either, and have been following the current series (I too was almost lost but have been giving Simone the benefit of the doubt and have not yet been fully let down) but have never really figured out my connection with Wonder Woman. I think there are female characters out there more my speed, and I've read a half dozen different takes on her character that worked for me just in the last decade, so clearly she shouldn't be as attractive a character as she is. But her place as the only game in town for so long, particularly in the Super Powers toys, combined with the promise of her origins gives her a heck of a place in my heart. What little I've read of her early stories all seem to fall short of say, Superman or Batman's golden age awesomeness, but the concepts are there... Yeah, I'm rambling. It's been a long week.mathematicscorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15439579069513071094noreply@blogger.com